Publicado: Jan 16, 2008
Por: luminescentfeeling
Duracion: 10:37
Training video from the British Psychiatric profession to 'teach' family Doctors (GP) that ME/CFS CFIDS patients are mentally ill, are not suffering from a neurological/immune disease, and can thus be 'treated' with psychological interventions such as behavioural therapy (CBT), Graded Exercise (GE) and Pacing. --------------------------------------- Claims made in Part 2 of this video about ME/CFS include: 1) Doctors should avoid telling patients they are psychologically ill - to reduce alienation and 'arguments'. 2) Patients may think (that Doctors think) they have an undiagnosed cause to their illness, which in a patients mind is 'a bit silly'. 3) Telling a patient the phrase 'you seem to fulfil the criteria of CFS' is enough to diagnose them with CFS and will 'satisfy' the patient well enough. 4) Use a practical approach by using 'activity scheduling' - because an ME/CFS patient 'worries' about undertaking an activity and then 'feeling' they have to rest after. 5) ME/CFS patients have got themselves 'caught up in a vicious circle' which has lead them to become physically disabled. By altering these thought processes, patients will improve. 6) Tiredness and 'fatigue' are genuine, but patients need to undertake activity that will make them feel bad. Patients should increase activity even if they feel really bad - because as long as it is done in a 'structured' way it will help. 7) By 'gradually building up' activity it does not have the same effect on patients symptoms. 8) Takes just months of gradually building back up activity levels - to recover from ME/CFS. ' 9) Patients have got into a 'habit' of avoiding activity - so now symptoms are controlling them, rather than the patient being in control of the symptoms. 10) Patients need to write down hour by hour what they are doing in a 'detailed diary' - and report back to the doctor with these levels of activity. These activities are then 're-ordered' to become more consistent to break ME/CFS patients associations between symptoms and activity. 11) ME/CFS patients need to distinguish between factors that contributed to the 'problem in the first place' and factors that 'keep the problem going once it's started' - which are reducing activity because they are fearful of continuing activity incase it makes them worse. 12) Consistent sleep patterns have a 'dramatic' effect on ME/CFS patients symptoms and quickly start to feel less tired. --------------------------------------- N:B Although dated, this video is still distributed in 2008. N:B In 2002, Professor Sir Liam Donaldson (Chief Medical Officer for England/Wales) said: ''Patients suffer their symptoms being ignored, not being taken seriously, labelled as hypochondriacs, urged to pull themselves together.'' ''CFS/ME should be classed alongside other diseases such as multiple sclerosis and motor neurone disease''. --------------------------------------- Question: How then, is the psychiatric profession legally allowed to produce information like this - if they have been ordered by higher powers not to? Answer: Because this is what you think, because that would be the moral decision - to STOP disinformation that harms/kills patients. Politics is never moral. Public statements by Government ministers mean nothing - if they have a lot to lose by revealing the cause of ME/CFS. ME/CFS is a politicised illness because the Government know the cause. (Most likely Pesticides).
Canal: Education
Tags: cfids cfs cfs/me encephalomyelitis gene genetic health kerr m.e me me/cfs myalgic pvfs test testing wessely
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BenMolen Escribio:
Feb 6, 2008 - Is prejudice a mental illnes? -----Yes?-----Than a lot of psychiatrists......... You know what i mean.
simonwesselysfanclub Escribio:
Feb 7, 2008 - Fuck of tylee you deviant shit- only you and your chums think any of the crap you talk is remotely acceptable in a civilised society. MY GP thinks everything you have to say is bollocks thank god.
BenMolen Escribio:
Feb 8, 2008 - Poor man,you're a hopeless case. A friend of mine(a psychologist),he is specialized in hopeless cases,he has a phenomenal track record. He will give you a discount.
simonwesselysfanclub Escribio:
Feb 16, 2008 - I am a psychologist- I work with Tylee
luminescentfeeling Escribio:
Feb 21, 2008 - I hope in the future these people will be seen as medical Nazi's. Because they are enforcing a harmful and sometimes fatal ideology onto an entire group of people - and when they fail to brainwash/bully, the victim is blamed or harmed.
indemnis4 Escribio:
Mar 11, 2008 - Man this is like the conversations I have had with some doctors before I found my Good one. I wanted to smack em with a shovel!
CaptchaU Escribio:
Mar 13, 2008 - Why do doctors think body and mind are separate anyhow? Even if this WAS an emotional illness which it is NOT. It is quantifiably a physical illness. Writing it off as emotional, conveniently absolves doctors (in their opinion) of any further thought, let alone tests. I hope to heaven THEY never get an illness that others are so ignorant about! Do they really think people WANT to live as shut-ins? What are they thinking!? It's hard to even get out to the appointment then to hear THIS garbage!!
seelanne Escribio:
Mar 25, 2008 - When i see this video, i want to kill. I wonder, how these idiots became doktors and how these idiots would exlain my heart desease. This is modern facsicm.
myartylife Escribio:
May 1, 2008 - I feel exactly the same. Must I fight every time I see a doctor? Grrrr!
myartylife Escribio:
May 1, 2008 - Where are parts 3 and 4?
archangel90123 Escribio:
Jun 2, 2008 - I think there are two kinds of people with CFS: one, who is suddenly struck by an infection/flu, and gets it. The other kind is not crazy either, they are just overachievers, who drive and drive themselves into CFS, and dig themselves consistently deeper. I am the second kind :( Remember the young man with CFS, who said that he was exhausted after 20 laps in the pool? 20 laps? This is how I started out. "I had CFS" meant that I could exercise less than before. Now I can barely walk.
simonwesselysfanclub Escribio:
Jun 4, 2008 - Trudy, if you came to fix my car and told me to think about the psychosocial ways in which I have burned the clutch out doing laps of silverstone I would say one thing. It begins with F and rhymes with muck and has the word "off" at the end of it.
Bilbo107 Escribio:
Jun 7, 2008 - Its so easy to speak about ME/CFS and treat it as trivial. Feeling the need to rest she said! If ones head cant be held up or you are unable to talk or txt a message on a phone. Pull your own battery out and see how it feels. Patronising comments and graduated exercise is a real negative. If they haven't experienced it, how can they speak with authority upon the subject. Makes me damn cross and for heavens sake remove the word 'tired' its called utter exhaustion.
k31thleo Escribio:
Jul 1, 2008 - Doctors wont help bully people onto thinking its all in the mind, yes i worked hard family members died plus partner left as had enough of my sleeping as soon as i sat down in pain, but that didn't give me high T cells plus liver kidneys working overtime. So CFS all in the mind? they should be struck off for neglect. 4 yrs down the line finaly get a referal CFS confermed. laughed as GP struggled to right sick note lol, keep pushing! i know its hard but dont give up, help is on its way.
HammersmithHardman Escribio:
Jul 10, 2008 - let me get this straight! the violent tremors, twitching muscles, chronic pain in virtually every muscle group, burning skin sensations, sensitivity to light and noise, constantly feeling unwell, short of breath, short of stregth amongst many many others are all in my mind!?! i make no apology for saying this but the people behind that video are the absolute scum of the earth. and i wish them the same misery as they are expecting me to just endure. that is fcuking evil beyond belief
vincent4500 Escribio:
Aug 3, 2008 - cognitive behavioural therapy and excercise therapy will NOT WORK unless the physical toxins are cleared, (through proper detox etc), any undiagnosed thryoid problems are treated (it's T3 deficieny in ME), real problems in the patients life are addressed and improved..doctor's/psychiatrists see the illness as 'all in the mind' psycogenic (created by mind), whereas it's actually psychosomatic (which means an interaction of and an independence of mental and physical factors) twats..
SANDMANCASTHISSPELL Escribio:
Aug 6, 2008 - Possibly if we put the Drs body in a vice. Sqeezed it until they couldnt breath , then unclock the vice and then hear them say OH MY GOD IN IM PAIN! "What pain? You have pain? You cant walk? You need to rest? You have a head ach, your sweating, your dizzy. Nah Dr. It's all in your head! Think positive thoughts and you'll feel better. Better yet go take arobics tonight or a good run around the track. You wont be more tired. It will help you. Oh and take a few vitamins and meditate. WTF!
Leitwolf25 Escribio:
Aug 18, 2008 - These two people must have an IQ of 150something. Together, that is..
kamatchodcd Escribio:
Sep 22, 2008 - oh my god! they are so fucking stupid!!!! i had to push to be sent to a sleep disorder clinic after i was given antidepressants when i complanied to them about my sleep patern. BULLSHIT, just dont go to the doctors, take your health in your own hands
Bluebottle83 Escribio:
Sep 25, 2008 - I've put up with this cr*p from the medical profession for over 20 years. I've just found out that I have chronic Lyme disease and lung worms that have been infesting my body and brain whilst doctors talked this bollards. Identify and treat the underlying condition doctors, stop believing the greedy self serving psychiatrists who are using M.E. as a milch cow and preventing all biomedical research, testing and treatment.
synapse131 Escribio:
Sep 26, 2008 - Fearful of Activity?!?! My biggest problem has been pushing too damn hard for too damn long. Haven't they heard of the alpha/delta wave sleep anomoly? If when you are unconcious every night (note I didn't say sleep) you never reach deep, slow wave sleep, it's not going to matter how much or how consistenly one sleeps.
luminescentfeeling Escribio:
Nov 21, 2008 - We reported the differential expression of 88 human genes in patients with CFS; 85 of these genes were upregulated and 3 were downregulated. The top functional categories of these 88 genes were hematologic disease and function, immunologic disease and function, cancer, cell death, immune response, and infection. Gene signatures in each subtype implicate five human genes as possible targets for specific therapy. Dr Jonathan Kerr - Current Rheumatology Reports 2008, 10:482-491
antares4141 Escribio:
Nov 30, 2008 - Please! Someone try it! $70 bucks is all it will cost you. Than come back here to youtube and tell me I am wrong. Not trying to be a smart ass, I have 12 years of this illness under my belt I know from hard knocks.
antares4141 Escribio:
Nov 30, 2008 - Walmart has a 9x7 dome shaped tent for $37 it's made of nylon (low voc), don't need stakes, the poles will support if you set it up in your bedroom. Put a hepa filter in it and don't come out without a respirator made for mold abatement $35 home depot. Do this for2weeks, I strongly believe many will see a huge drop in symptoms. if only everyone who suffered were on the same page with their symptoms and the cause the pressure would be too great for authorities to write it off as psychological
blahblahblahblah43 Escribio:
Feb 5, 2008 - I saw a psychiatrist about my ME and she also told me to "take charge of my symptoms and not let them control me". What a load of crap. If it was that simple then there wouldn't be so many chronically disabled people in the world.